This is my current project

A full redesign of my 98 ZJ suspension.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it again...

Now any one of these designs would work and could have been just modified to fix the one or two issues that they have. It just took me a while to figure that out.

I wanted to take my time and research suspension design before I did it again. For some light reading might I suggest these posts on Pirate4x4. They will make your head hurt, I read them all at least 5 times until I knew what they were referring to.

Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board - Link suspensions for dummies

Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board - Anti Squat, the final answer

Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board - Anti-Squat Hurts My Brain

Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board - New Version of my 4-link Analyzer & Request for Help

Center of Gravity and Roll-Over Angle - Jeepaholics Anonymous

Click here to see my Front Suspension Calculations

Click here to see my Rear Suspension Calculations

Gen3 has begun - Third time is the charm, it's either that or three strikes and you're out.

Dissecting the Gen 2 in converting to a Gen 3

Rear Welded, now for the front.

Exhaust Path

Layout on the floor.

RE Superflex Joint Welded to 1-1/4" B7 Threaded Rod

Double Triangulated 4 Link

View from on top of cross-member

 

Arms Everywhere

I hope those are strong Jackstands.

A major brake upgrade with the WJ Knuckles and Cobra Brakes

This is the exhaust in a box. The muffler will be tucked into the rear bumper. I plan on wraping it with heat shield.

Subframe completed

It weighs in at a hefty 200lbs.

 

 

Click here for recent updated pics

Random notes about the setup so far.

If you run front LCA mounts on the sub-frame rail, you will limit your turning radius with the tire hitting the control arms. If you run a small offset wheel like 3.25" you may not rub. I have TJ canyons and 1.25" spidertrax wheel spacers, netting me 4.25" backspacing, and I rubbed. I thought no big deal I will just adjust the steering stops. They would not adjust big enough to stop the rubbing. After 1 year of driving that way, I ripped the LCA off the axle by pushing the tire into the control arm.

 

I don't remember the number but I think that a stock ZJ had a 33' turing radius and mine was 39', that is a big difference, my new one will be tighter than stock. My rear setup will also allow for a mild rear steer setup with the double triangulated 4-links.

 

I have fully welded front and rear x-members. I had the sides built already; I modified them and then built the new x-members. With the sides in place, I clamped the x-members and tacked in place. Then I lowered the whole thing down and welded it. It is easy enough to install, with 2 jacks and 2 people. I installed it myself and 30 mins later I had it bench pressed in place and swore not to ever do it again. It weighs about 120 lbs. After finishing it, it now weighs 200lbs.

 

It would be very hard to mass produce it that way, unless people were willing to weld the x-member in place. Every Jeep is different. I could not expect to take my sub-frame off and install it on another ZJ.

 

I can drop my TCase down through the 2 x-members and slide the tranny back, then down and out the front. All with the full suspension intact. I will have a full skid plate from the front x-member to the rear x-member. I built it with a modification to this. I have a single post through the center, I can easily cut it out and re-weld it if I need the TC out.

 

I do not weld my sub-frame on either. I drilled holes through the uni-body frame rails and welded in sleeves to run bolts through. I used 3/4" .120 and 1/2" grade 8 bolts. I chose .120 wall because of its similar thickness to the uni-body.